For many many people, not me or my wife, having children is something they want. Even if we think Whedon literally meant that her sterilization … Devastating.”I don’t really watch the Marvel movies, but this thread immediately made me think of The Witcher, where Yennefer and the other sorceresses become infertile as a “price” for practicing magic— and of course, it’s a huge deal to her.I though it was the „price“ for getting beautiful not for practicing magic? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts

"Exactly." Shouldn't we be just as accepting of someone's choice to have children as we want them to be about our choice to not have children?New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be castDiscussion and links of interest to childfree individuals. Entertainment Weekly may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. By Chancellor Agard I'm not sure how many people are familiar with the Black Widow movie coming out but there is a scene where she is sterilized and it's made to be this big scary thing. By Chancellor Agard Why? The loss of choice is the reason something like that is horrifying.I understand everyone saying it’s the fact that it was forced that matters, but I feel like “can’t have kids” is used too often to add a “tragic” element to female characters.I don’t really watch the Marvel movies, but this thread immediately made me think of The Witcher, where Yennefer and the other sorceresses become infertile as a “price” for practicing magic— and of course, it’s a huge deal to her.Whenever this trope is used it just seems like lazy, surface-level writing of women to me. I know, she can’t have children! By Chancellor Agard Isn't that sad? It's super trite and boring.

The Red Room, also known as the Black Widow Program, is a top-secret Soviet brainwashing and training program. Surely you can’t have missed that as the reason for it being traumatic?The point is that they didn't have to write her character as wanting kids. "We have no place in the world." "Childfree" refers to those who do not have and do not ever want children (whether biological, adopted, or otherwise).Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser.

I played the games, never read the books and the show was just fine, so my knowledge regarding that topic is not the best. As for the scene – in which Natasha opens up about her forced sterilization and inability to have children – she needs a little film magic to shoot it. March 10, 2020 at 02:00 PM EDT

Stop equating people's fertility with their entire identities.The point is that it is forced and not her choice, which is never okay.

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